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Lee Joon-Ik Talks 왕의 남자 (The King and The Clown)
- by X @ TwitchFilm
[Reproduced herein with kind permission from X and Twitchfilm]
One
the most unlikely 'star directors' this new
era of prosperity brought to the Chungmuro
shores is certainly Lee Joon-Ik. Not because
he didn't pay his dues, or because his films
don't deserve the acclaim they received (at
least locally, abroad he's still unknown).
No, it's just that he seems to go against
every single rule of the star director. For
starters, he didn't graduate from a
prestigious foreign film school, quitting
Sejong University to start working on his
company from the late 80s. It was just a
marketing company, making CFs and magazine
ads, but he eventually used that as a
launchpad for an expansion into the film
market. He did direct the comedy 키드캅
(Kid Cop) in 1993, but I'd safely
say he'd rather forget about that. What's
important is that, from the early 90s,
Cineworld started operating in Chungmuro,
producing films like Jang Jin's 간첩
리철진 (The Spy), the Park Chan-Wook
co-written 아나키스트 (Anarchists)
and the hit comedy 달마야 놀자 (Hi,
Dharma). But more than producing
local films, the company has always been
known for importing and distributing foreign
films, like Memento and
Velvet Goldmine.
Perhaps because he grew up as a producer in an time when Korean films were made on a shoestring budget, his approach to filmmaking, in particular his first big film 황산벌 (Once Upon a Time in The Battlefield) was very pragmatic: no excesses, especially in terms of production (the film was a big success because it didn't cost much, compared to other films of the same kind), a tendency to focus on the basic fundamentals of filmmaking, like telling a good story, allowing the actors to perform to the best of their abilities, and never indulging in pseudo-artistic 'games' to gain recognition overseas. The results were surprising, as the film starring Park Joong-Hoon and Jung Jin-Young managed to affect and entertain viewers, without ever dumbing down the historical background the film used -- the momentous meeting at Hwangsan, where the fate of the Three Kingdoms was sealed.
'Battlefield' was one of the most beloved films of 2003 by Koreans (over 2.9 Million tickets sold), for mixing tropes of the 'well made blockbuster' with elements of Historical Dramas, local comedies and more. The 'Fusion Drama' was born, which brought us other films like 스캔들 (Untold Scandal), and the tradition still continues today. Lee does't call his new film 왕의 남자 (The King and The Clown) a Fusion Drama, but everything I've seen and read about this film reminds me of the same intelligent balancing of different genre elements you could find in 'Battlefield'. And critics responded to that again, praising the film more than any other during the holidays [even Yoon Jong-Chan's 청연 (Blue Swallow)]. It seems the hype worked, as Lee's film about a group of Royal Clowns and the country's most detested King, Yeonsan, is leading most online presales rankings with rates between 25 and 30%, a sign of a potential big box office success. Director Lee recently sat down with Film2.0 to discuss his latest film, and his approach to filmmaking.
You can read a production meeting report here, and our press screening report. Here's a few highlights from the interview:
You've
directed another Historical Drama, right
after 황산벌 (Once Upon a Time in the
Battlefield). Did you originally plan to
do two in such a short time?
Lee Joon-Ik: Not
really, but I've always wanted to do
Historical Dramas. My film company has
imported plenty of foreign films in the
past, and the ones which left a lasting
impression on me were always Japanese
Historical Dramas [時代劇, Jidai Geki] of
the 40s and 50s, and films like those of
Kurosawa Akira. I was inspired a lot by
those films.
I know the
adaptation process was helped a lot by
Kim Tae-Woong, who wrote the original
screenplay. Did he show any concern
about the direction this adaptation was
taking [the film changes the POV from
Gong-Gil to Jang-Saeng, unlike what
happens in the play]?
Lee: I got to know Kim
Tae-Woong when I was working as
producer, and Jung Jin-Young introduced
him to me. He was a junior from Jung's
college days, and he told me Kim was
someone with plenty of talent, and that
he could have helped us a lot. I did
meet him, and he was extremely talented,
but his style didn't fit the movie
business. After that, we didn't continue
working together. Even looking at the
original script , I couldn't believe it
was written by someone like him. But, go
figure, as we met again and started
working together, he greatly helped us.
But he kept trying to focus on Gong-Gil,
after which I'd always put the focus
back on Jang-Saeng. He would go: "If you
keep doing things your way all the time,
I'll stop doing this. You don't even
listen to me" (laughs).
Just looking
at the title of the film [Korean title
means 'The King's Man'], it has some
homosexual undertones. But that's not
something you emphatically stress in the
film, at least not directly.
Lee: I didn't do it on
purpose, I would have if it were my
money I was spending, then things would
have been different. If that happened,
then people would try to completely
strip Gong-Gil, but how can I do that
when I'm using someone else's money?
That would be crazy. But If I didn't
show as much as we did, people wouldn't
be able to get that aspect of the film.
Instead, they'll understand everything
just by association.
You show all
the different things the clowns do to
entertain the King in the film. It must
have been really hard, not only as a
director, but for the actors as well.
Lee: That's precisely
why Gam Woo-Sung is a great actor.
There's a limit to how much an actor can
immerse himself in a character, but Gam
does so much more than you'd expect from
anyone. He never walked on a rope, tried
pansori, played those traditional
instruments... never, but he did all
that in this film. How was he able to do
that, just sheer dedication to improve,
and constant training? He just had a
month to practice, but he did it, and
well, I think he had all that in his
blood. Battle Rap is like that, it's not
something you can understand, try to
replicate or go somewhere to learn, you
either have it in your blood or you
don't, simple as that.
The scale of
the film was really big, but you wrapped
the shoot in just 3 months. That was
really fast.
Lee: I'm just relieved
we did it so fast. I don't shoot more
than three takes per scene. If you shoot
slowly, does that really help you?
That's a waste of time. Before even
starting the first shoot, I made my
position clear: "I won't shoot more than
three takes per scene, so deal with it."
If we get to the third take, it's pretty
obvious someone is not doing things the
right way, as we never went to the third
take because of mistakes I made. At
first people were a little confused, but
then as they started seeing scenes take
a little longer, some of them thought:
"If I don't do it in three takes, then
I'll look worthless", and they became
nervous.
Doing that
without asking them anything, isn't that
a little too confident?
Lee: It's not
difficult, just an easy equation, it's
all there in the monitor. No matter if
you're a director or not, it's all the
same. If you do as planned while
rehearsing, then that's it. We are
animals who live by habits. If the
director starts shooting several takes,
then everybody stops working hard. We'll
shoot another take anyway, why give all
you have in one take? If you do like me,
not shooting more than three takes per
scene, then a hundred people on the set
become nervous: "If I fail, this cut
will never come back." Isn't that more
convenient economically? If I do a take
myself, then for other reasons we have
to repeat because of the Make Up team,
the Costume team or the DP team, then a
hundred people all have to move again,
and at the end everyone stops
concentrating.
So that's why
a 4.4 Billion Won Historical Drama could
be made.
Lee: I'm realistic,
other people are just going overboard.
If this were their money, they wouldn't
spend it like that. A man of wisdom
would pay more attention when using
other people's money, much more than if
he was using his. Is going around
spending tens of Billions of Won
something to be proud of? If I said our
film cost more than 10 Billion Won, I
bet people would believe me. They'd say
since I spent so much, we were able to
do all that. Why are people judging
movies based on their budget scale?
Spending a lot of money on films is just
like leading a thriftless life, it's a
waste that involves the entire country
and a crime. It's not my money, right?
So using someone else's money so
inefficiently is a crime. A professional
breach of trust.
Is your next
project another Historical Drama?
Lee: I want to do one,
but doing it cheaply takes a lot of
preparation. So going straight into
another Historical Drama would be
difficult. At the moment I'm preparing
라디오 스타 (Radio Star), a
comedy with a modern setting. We've cast
Park Joong-Hoon and Ahn Sung-Gi already,
and the script is in process right now.
It's about an aging rock star turned DJ
and his manager: he thinks he's still
great despite being clearly past his
prime, and even though he's become a
minority after being a big star, he
cannot strip himself of that complex
yet. People look down on him, but he
keeps thinking he's some kind of great
person, unique in the world.
--
왕의
남자 (The King and The Clown)
Director: 이준익 (Lee Joon-Ik)
Cast: 감우성 (Gam Woo-Sung), 정진영 (Jung
Jin-Young), 이준기 (Lee Joon-Gi), 유해진 (Yoo
Hae-Jin), 강성연 (Kang Sung-Yeon)
Press Screening Report
Official Website
Daum Cafe
Highlight Reel (Streaming,
Windows Media)
Theatrical Trailer
(Streaming, Windows Media)
Teaser Trailer (Streaming,
700k, Windows Media)
Making Of(Streaming, 300k,
Windows Media)
Making Of (Streaming, 700k,
Windows Media)
Music Video (Streaming,
300k, Windows Media) [Lee Seon-Hee - 연인]
Movie Stills/Posters
Produced By: 이글 픽쳐스 (Eagle Pictures),
씨네월드 (Cineworld)
Distributed By: 시네마 서비스 (Cinema Service)
Rating: 15 and Over
RELEASE: December 29
[Source: Film2.0]
Original Link : http://www.twitchfilm.net/archives/004657.html (Posted by X at December 30,2005 02:12 AM)
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